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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between.

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Oct 20, 2017

The two pastors talk about the “me too” campaign.

Oct 13, 2017

With the loss of Tom Petty, the two pastors talk about the role the arts play in our lives.


Excerpts of the following songs have been included in this episode for illustrative purposes:

1. Intro: "Jesus" by Rich Mullins (demo version). Source:

2. Outro:...

Oct 6, 2017

After the shooting in Las Vegas, the two pastors talk about grieving tragedy after tragedy. How do we balance finding peace and being active for good?

Sep 29, 2017

Pastor Beth has downsized her pastoral library considerably. The two pastors talk about the role books play in the formation of a pastor. They talk about the books with which they are willing to part and those with which they are not.

Sep 22, 2017

In reference to the infamous children’s book by Taro Gomi, the two pastors embark on a fairly funny conversation about how much we have within our reach to consume. Is it good that we have so much at our disposal? Or isn’t it? What do you think?