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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Sep 14, 2018

Pastor Michael led an intergenerational mission trip to Port Arthur, Texas this summer to do some relief work from Hurricane Harvey. In this episode, he shares how he thinks the relief effort is going so far. But with any conversation about relief work comes the realization that charity is not the answer. The two pastors talk about the difference between charity and equality, and equality and justice. Listen in on a conversation about opening our eyes and our lives to vulnerable needs that are all around us.