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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Oct 28, 2016

Pastor Beth starts by saying a few words on how you can support this podcast through Patreon ( She is then joined by Pastor Michael, who shares a short story on grace. The title is a reference to Episode 30: "Life, Loss, and the Breadcrumbs of...

Oct 21, 2016

Pastor Michael starts by thanking our podcast's first sponsor and explains how you too can support Two Pastors' Podcast through Patreon ( if you enjoy what you hear. He is then joined by Pastor Beth and the two pastors talk about the cost of equality as racism and sexism is...

Oct 14, 2016

Donald Trump’s abusive language leads to a difficult conversation about sexism, and the two pastors take this opportunity to engage in a timely, thoughtful discussion about the differences between feminist/womanist leadership and masculine/hierarchical leadership.

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Oct 7, 2016

The two pastors believe (and argue) this election is very much a fight between two dreams for America. One dream believes we should be a strong, wealthy empire with a dominant “American culture.” The other dream believes we are a global community of immigrants, made up of many cultures.