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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Apr 28, 2017

The two pastors begin by reflecting on how increasing years of service at a church can lead to spiritual drain. They move into a more general conversation on our need for rest and renewal (sabbath) and our need to take longer periods of time off (sabbatical). How often should we take such a sabbatical, and what do we do...

Apr 21, 2017

Due to a personal matter, we regret we are unable to bring you a new episode this week. We hope to be recording again soon. In the meantime, please enjoy this repost whose subject matter is no less important than it was a year ago when we first published the episode (Episode 13, 4/22/2016).

The two pastors talk about...

Apr 14, 2017

It's Holy Week in the Christian calendar this week, and Pastors Beth and Michael are taking a well-deserved recording break. In place of a new episode, we repost this one (Episode 12, initially published 4/15/2016) for your listening enjoyment.

Pastors Beth and Mike talk about how their siblings taught them to love and...

Apr 7, 2017

It turns out both pastors cut the cable cord this past week! The conversation was as much pragmatic ("How to cut the cord?") as it was philosophic ("How should/can we consume entertainment differently?").


We apologize for the inferior audio quality in parts of this episode due to some unexpected problems during...