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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Sep 29, 2017

Pastor Beth has downsized her pastoral library considerably. The two pastors talk about the role books play in the formation of a pastor. They talk about the books with which they are willing to part and those with which they are not.

Sep 22, 2017

In reference to the infamous children’s book by Taro Gomi, the two pastors embark on a fairly funny conversation about how much we have within our reach to consume. Is it good that we have so much at our disposal? Or isn’t it? What do you think?

Sep 15, 2017

The two pastors get caught up talking about some of their heroes of the faith—folks like St. Francis, Julian of Norwich, and Henri Nouwen. Listen in as they affirm “who we are informs what we believe.” What we have endured influences the kind of God we believe in or don’t believe in.

Sep 8, 2017

Both Pastors Michael and Beth have journeyed from a fundamentalist Christian practice to a progressive liberal practice of Christianity. They speak candidly about how their understanding and interpretation of scripture has changed over time.

Sep 1, 2017

The two pastors are so grateful for the faithful pastors who are offering shelter and nourishment, physically, emotionally and spiritually, to those who are affected by Hurricane Harvey. Listen in on them talking about their first thoughts and how they plan to stay focused on the long game of caring for and rebuilding...