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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Nov 30, 2018

The two pastors speak with a fellow podcaster, Colleen Kavanaugh. Colleen's show is "The After Life," on which she interviews people who have experienced difficulty and transformed through it. She has also written a journaling workbook called "Grit, Grace and Gratitude." Listen as the three of them talk...

Nov 23, 2018

The two pastors meet Chase Dost, a pastoral intern at Christ Congregational Church in Princeton, NJ. Chase is a leader for the LGBTQIA+ group at Princeton Theological Seminary and this past week,* he helped lead a transgender remembrance service. One of his classes this semester is about Jewish/Christian relationships....

Nov 16, 2018

Sometimes the “God who is” overtakes the God who we thought was. The two pastors talk about how faith and belief and theology change over time as we live in relationship with one another and with God.

Nov 9, 2018

The two pastors are on separate road trips and check in with each other using new phone technology while on the road. Pastor Michael is in Missouri presenting information about intergenerational ministry and Beth is on tour with her book. Both are thrilled to meet new friends, field questions and more than anything,...

Nov 2, 2018

Friday, Nov. 2, 2018 is Pastor Beth’s official launch date for her first book, "Who is God When We Hurt." Beth’s book is vulnerable and honest as is this conversation. Listen in as Pastor Michael interviews Beth about the book, about pain, and about God. 

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