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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Feb 22, 2019

What is faith? What is doubt? How do we keep going when we face uncertainty? Where is God if we are uncertain? The two pastors wrestle with a decent definition of faith.

Feb 15, 2019

Our world is bombarded with damaging material all around it. We are concerned about the hole in the ozone layer because it is letting that stuff in. That’s true with our personal lives as well. We all have some fractured part of ourselves that lets the ick in. Listen in as the two pastors talk about healing the...

Feb 8, 2019

It’s winter and while the ground lies dormant, we keep our lives going. But we’ve noticed that all of us are hoping beyond all hope for a snow day. What’s that about? The two pastors talk about it in this episode recorded on Jan. 30, 2019, a day after snow had fallen in New Jersey.

Feb 1, 2019

Pastor Michael has a 15-year-old and the two pastors get talking about growing up and seeing the world through another person's eyes. Listen in on this conversation where they entertain the idea that even God is learning about the world through our eyes.