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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Dec 18, 2020

What’s next? The two pastors talk about the continual change that happens in life and how we can turn the page and walk toward the next season of life.

Dec 11, 2020

The year isn’t quite over yet. But so far, we’ve experienced tremendous losses individually and as a community. Have you spent time counting your losses? Why would we do that? Acknowledging loss is one of the first steps toward healing. Losses need to be taken seriously. What would it look like for us individually...

Dec 4, 2020

Today’s episode features one of those great meandering conversations of the two pastors. As we enter the season of Advent, they share some of their traditions that are working and aren’t working, and talk about how tradition brings us comfort.

Nov 20, 2020

We are headed into a darker winter and the two pastors, like everyone else in the service or people business, are feeling the ache around us. It’s a conversation that seems like one we’ve had already but one we’ve never had today. So let’s keep talking.

Nov 13, 2020

What is sharpening you these days? If we are loving each other right, the two pastors say we should be feeling some 'ouches.' Relationships take adjusting. So what is sharpening you these days?


Iron sharpens iron, and one person sharpens the wits of another. (Proverbs 27:17, NRSV)