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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Jan 31, 2020

In this special, one-pastor edition of Two Pastors' Podcast, listen in as Pastor Beth reflects on building relationships and belonging in community with those who are different than us.

Jan 24, 2020

Lord have mercy: the two pastors cover a lot of ground but it’s a great ride. They touch on topics that include global warming, our relationship with our planet and environment, and our connectivity to one another, Come along!

Jan 17, 2020

Pastor Michael is coming off his first teaching gig. Listen in as the two pastors talk about questions and learning, deconstruction and reconstruction.

Jan 10, 2020

Pastor Michael is teaching a course at Drew University this month. The two pastors talk about compulsory education and the nurturing of white American culture as it relates to faith formation and the next generation of the church. 

Jan 3, 2020

We join Pastor Beth as she describes some recent experiences from the coaching class she is taking. This leads the two pastors into taking a look back at the last year, using a resource by Maryann McKibben Dana, a pastor, author and coach from the DC area.