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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Oct 30, 2020

As voting finishes up this week, the two pastors talk about what drives our decisions, behaviors and choices. What does it look like for us to have love take the driver's seat?

Oct 16, 2020

So the pastors start talking about how Beth got mad at her dog, Sam. But as Michael and Beth are apt to do, they transition the conversation into how we move our anger or frustration toward compassion and reconciliation. Relationships are hard - with people and with puppies.

Oct 9, 2020

What starts as “what are you preaching?” turns into an exploration of “who we believe God to be” this side of the pandemic? The spiritual practices we once had often don’t work the same way anymore. How do we move forward with our changed selves and with God, whoever/whatever that is?

Oct 2, 2020

This week alone, sixty people died in New Jersey from the coronavirus. We would prefer to look away from suffering. And yet conversations about our vulnerability or the fragility of life are the richest conversations we can have with one another.