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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Sep 17, 2021

Big news. Sad news? Honest news. And hopeful news. The two pastors have discerned that this particular iteration of their voices together has come to an end. Listen in on them as they meander, in their signature manner, through the process of saying 'no' to this and being open to what the next 'yes' is.

Sep 3, 2021

We replay our interview with “This Side of Eve”, the creators of the theme music we are gratefully using this season. John and Alyssa Creasy join the two pastors for a conversation about music, faith, Pittsburgh, organic farming, climate change, the environment, Black Lives Matters, and acceptance. We also...

Aug 27, 2021

This reposted episode first aired on 3/23/2018 but the topic of the two pastors' conversation is timeless. How can we tailor the life we are given so that we are living life that brings us joy, and not overfilling it with things we think we have to do?

Aug 20, 2021

In this repost from Jan. 18, 2019, the two pastors have a thoughtful conversation about the role of comedy in our lives. Comedy that pokes fun at real life provides a mirror for us to see what others see. But sometimes poking fun is just mean. What’s the difference? Why do we need comedy? 

Aug 13, 2021

In this episode, which originally aired on May 7, 2021, the two pastors talk about how our personal space has changed as a result of the pandemic.