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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we publish new episodes every two weeks, usually on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

May 7, 2021

As we all recalculate life, the two pastors talk about how our personal space has changed as a result of the pandemic.

Apr 16, 2021

The two pastors reemerged from their post-Easter break. Why a break after Easter, you ask? In their meandering answer they talk about what it means for them to follow Jesus these next 50 days, the time between Easter and Pentecost.  


We thank This Side of Eve ( for permission to use their song...

Mar 26, 2021

Meet “This Side of Eve”, the makers of the music we are using in Season 6. John and Alyssa Creasy join the two pastors for a conversation about music, about Pittsburgh, about organic farming, about Black Lives Matters, and about acceptance. Listen in as we figure out how to let go of what was so that what will be...

Mar 12, 2021

Welcome to Season 6, where the two pastors are looking forward to a season of interviews and continued conversations (possibly longer than previous seasons) about how the world is “recalculating” as we emerge from a global pandemic. Last episode we heard about the “recalculating” Pastor Michael did in...

Feb 26, 2021

Happy Anniversary to the two pastors! As Pastors Michael and Beth enter into Season 6, they wanted to be intentional about this next year of conversations. Listen in on this new “lens” through which Season 6 will develop.