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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Jun 25, 2021

Pastor Michael is using Pride Sunday (June 27, 2021) as a way to offer his congregation yet another lens through which to understand the Christian faith. Listen in as the two pastors kick around his text for Sunday worship and how this story of Jesus instructs our lives. 

Jun 18, 2021

The two pastors continue last week's conversation (Ep. 251) about play and the need to let go of expectations or pre-conceived notions in order to experience or envision something new. And as it should… the conversation lands on the imagination of the late Gene Roddenberry. 

Jun 11, 2021

Where are you needing to recalculate? Join the two pastors in this first of two conversations about the importance of play in personal, and organizational, development.

Jun 4, 2021

The two pastors start their conversation with the Christian doctrine of the Trinity but it quickly develops into a broader conversation about how we deal with “unknowns” in life.