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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Jul 30, 2021

People were important to Jesus, so Jesus had a lot to say about  issues in public life that concerned them: money, politics, power, authority, and so on. In doing so, Jesus gave a "face" to faith. Listen as the two pastors talk about how these issues continued to be prominent throughout history, even to this day, and...

Jul 23, 2021

The two pastors give us a sign off until the fall. Both are wrapping up Summer 2021 with time off, hoping to be able to shut down and reboot. They hope you will do the same. See you after Labor Day!

Jul 16, 2021

The “golden rule” is universal in that every religion has its version of this statement, “Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.” But there is a flaw in this if we only ever love others the way we wish to be loved. What if our “others” need to be loved differently than we need to be loved? Listen...

Jul 9, 2021

Even though these two pastors seem to talk about anything and everything, there are a lot of things pastors withhold. So much of their lives is in a “fishbowl.” In this episode the two pastors talk about how they can be more honest about the deeper struggles they have, whether it be preaching on July 4 or how tired...

Jul 2, 2021

Pastor Beth is in a sermon series on the “Fruit of the Holy Spirit”—human actions and attributes that reveal who God is in our world. Along the way, she’s reading a book called "Neuroscience and the Fruit of the Spirit,” by Bryan Spoon, to inform her thinking. The two pastors talk about the Spirit living in...