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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Feb 24, 2017

Happy Anniversary, Two Pastors’ Podcast! The two pastors celebrate their first anniversary by extending their conversation to author and speaker, Carol Howard Merritt. Her recent book, "Healing Spiritual Wounds" “provides a way to restore personal faith and connection to God for those who have been hurt or betrayed...

Feb 17, 2017

The two pastors talk about the big changes that have been in the making in Pastor Beth and her husband, Pete’s lives. They discuss vulnerability, asking for help and coming to grips with our own limitations.

Feb 10, 2017

The two pastors talk about safe places: from a random dude in St. Louis who fixes bikes for kids in the neighborhood, to churches being safe for vulnerable people, to each of us being “home base” for one another.

Feb 3, 2017

The two pastors talk about non-violence, kindness, and spreading love as resistance within the context of our current political and social environment.