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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

May 26, 2017

Dr. William Barber was the commencement speaker at Pastor Michael’s recent graduation from the seminary connected to Drew University. Dr. Barber is the president of the North Carolina NAACP and he has risen as an important voice for progressive Christianity in recent years. Pastor Michael talks about hearing Dr....

May 19, 2017

While Pastor Michael was in Holland, the country celebrated “Remembrance Day” and “Liberation Day.” As the pastors debrief his trip, they talk about the way the Dutch emerged humble from WWII.

May 12, 2017

The two pastors reflect on our tendency to consume excessively and how this consumption needs to be balanced with creation.

May 5, 2017

The two pastors are on vacation and get together at Pastor Michael’s home to record. They start by talking about vacation plans and how the best vacations can take place even in one’s home. Pastor Beth points out how beautiful Pastor Michael’s home is, and this leads into a conversation on blessings and what it...