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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Jul 28, 2017

Pastor Michael checks in with Pastor Beth as she continues to grieve the loss of her beloved, Pete. She’s had a lot of changes come up quickly in her life since we last checked in with her.

Jul 21, 2017

The two pastors continue their conversation with the Rev. Dr. Erin Raffety. This time, they are discussing her research. As an anthropologist, she studied Chinese foster parents and the kinship developed in various family configurations.


This interview was recorded in the same session as Episode 75 (7/14/2017) and...

Jul 14, 2017

The two pastors ask the Rev. Dr. Erin Raffety to speak with them about the need for Medicaid. Erin’s three-year-old girl has special needs and they receive tremendous services from the state and federal government through Medicaid for her.


Please excuse the occasional sound imperfections in this episode. This is our...

Jul 7, 2017

[PART 2 of 2]  The two pastors finish their conversation with friend Carol Osbourne about her childhood abuse. Resilience, healing, and wound care are all topics of discovery.

For Part 1 of this conversation, please listen to Episode 73, first published on June 30, 2017.