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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Aug 25, 2017

The two pastors continue their conversation with Roberta Smith, Beth’s new southern friend. They talk about the economy, the need for a new mindset and how Jesus was desperate to give voice to a conversation not happening. Some things never change!

[For Part One of this conversation, please listen to Episode 80:...

Aug 18, 2017

After last week’s protest, counter-protests and violence in Charlottesville, the two pastors welcome Pastor Michael’s friend, Roberta Smith. Roberta is from Virginia and attended the University of Virginia. Together, they talk about sacred places, sacred texts and sacred cows.

Aug 11, 2017

The two pastors recorded this episode the day after July 4, 2017; they talk about balancing love of country with the vows they take as leaders and guides in the kingdom of God.

Aug 4, 2017

The two pastors have just returned from annual church mission trips. Michael went to Camden, NJ; Beth went to Portland, ME. Listen in on some of their thoughts and learnings from these experiences.