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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Dec 28, 2018

We are in the midst of the Christmas season. Listen in on the two pastors sharing highlights from the past several weeks and how they plan to embrace and grow the light that comes to us on Christmas.

Dec 21, 2018

Pastor Michael recently officiated at a dear friend’s funeral. The two pastors talk about feeling and navigating our own feelings as we make space for others to gather and mourn together. Join us for this conversation about those times when we hold joy and sorrow—how we suffer and sing—at the...

Dec 14, 2018

The two pastors had a chance to record on Beth’s actual birthday so they talked about a tradition she holds in reflecting about her last year and the year to come. Join us for this conversation about how our hearts grow and change and how we continue to grow up while growing old.

Dec 7, 2018

While on book tour, Pastor Beth fielded three questions that kept her honest. One of them was about advice she might give to someone who was caring for a loved one who was not as great as her husband was. The two pastors talk about the option of divorce, the importance of not being trapped and the grace of God when...

Nov 30, 2018

The two pastors speak with a fellow podcaster, Colleen Kavanaugh. Colleen's show is "The After Life," on which she interviews people who have experienced difficulty and transformed through it. She has also written a journaling workbook called "Grit, Grace and Gratitude." Listen as the three of them talk...