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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Oct 26, 2018

The two pastors debrief Pastor Michael's ordination from last weekend. Meander with them as they reflect on the notion that we are all born with gifts to serve and enjoy.

Oct 19, 2018

The two pastors have often said that a great litmus test to where a person is or what they are thinking about is found in the question "What are you reading?" Listen in on what Pastors Beth and Michael are meditating on lately based on what books are on their shelf.

Oct 12, 2018

The two pastors meander from Michael's son being a budding film maker, to Michael teaching his first seminary class, to the personality tool called the Enneagram. What motivates us? Do we each have an internal guide that is set to move us through the world in certain ways? And if so, do we welcome that natural, internal...

Oct 5, 2018

Michael has been doing ministry for three decades and this past week his current congregation voted to officially ordain him to Pastor. The process of ordination is not just the tasks the Pastor-to-be does, but the discernment of the community is a key component. Listen in on the two pastors as they talk about community...