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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Feb 28, 2020

Happy anniversary to the Two Pastors' Podcast! As typical, the two pastors reflect on the need to be always growing in our faith, always on a journey that forms us as spiritual beings.

Feb 21, 2020

All of us have been in a meeting or gathering where we think we don’t quite belong; we aren’t nearly as good, as smart, as <fill in the blank> as the others in this room. Listen in on the two pastors as they talk about our ongoing conversation with shame and vulnerability. 

Feb 14, 2020

Pastor Michael went to Disney recently and has a renewed appreciation and understanding of “magic”. We all want to experience the extraordinary in some way and we all have been disappointed when left with what seems ordinary. 

Feb 7, 2020

In this solo-pastor episode, Pastor Michael reflects after returning from vacation, that Walt Disney created a world according to his vision of how our world could be a better place. In a sense, so did Jesus! What role do we, the church, have in this?