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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Apr 24, 2020

Nostalgia, longing for what was, doesn’t serve us right now during the Covid-19 pandemic. And neither does attempting to predict the future. The “storm” of this present moment is where we find ourselves. What is ours to do amid this storm? 

Apr 17, 2020

Although we need to provide essentials like food, shelter, care and support to those in need during the COVID-19 pandemic, it is just as important to take care of ourselves. The two pastors talk about how creating new spaces and workspaces at home can benefit not only our productivity while sheltering in place, but our...

Apr 10, 2020

For the past several weeks, we have all learned or at least been challenged by the constant need to “lower the bar.” Social distancing, learning new ways of being community and managing the anxiety of a global pandemic has left many of us "just OK.” Well you know what? “OK” is just fine. Let’s talk about...

Apr 3, 2020

The two pastors spend time getting to know Matthew Black, a musician with whom they are collaborating for this fifth season of Two Pastors' Podcast.

[Producer's note: This episode was recorded prior to the live, online YouTube concert mentioned in this interview. You may still listen to a recording of the concert at: