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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Jun 26, 2020

How is your industry changing? What needs do you see that are within reach of your industry meeting? As industries, including the church, adapt to the new parameters being set, the two pastors talk about making sure we are adapting to the needs around us and not just trying to make a close facsimile of what used to be

Jun 19, 2020

As we emerge from sheltering in place for almost four months, we find ourselves in the midst of significant, ongoing change that is leading to uncertainty, grief and anxiety. Listen in as the two pastors talk about how we might adapt to this change.

Jun 12, 2020

These times of unrest, turmoil, and righteous indignation are made for vision, creativity, and hope. The two pastors are working really hard at leading their churches into the futureā€”an unknown target at best.

Jun 5, 2020

Recent events have created a perfect storm that is forcing us to look head-on at the protests happening across the nation and the issues behind them. As the two pastors struggle to formulate a response, listen in as they talk about what needs to be done so that the voices and efforts of the protesters are not...