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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Apr 3, 2020

The two pastors spend time getting to know Matthew Black, a musician with whom they are collaborating for this fifth season of Two Pastors' Podcast.

[Producer's note: This episode was recorded prior to the live, online YouTube concert mentioned in this interview. You may still listen to a recording of the concert at: ]


For more information on Matt and his music, please visit his homepage at:

His YouTube Channel is:

He can be found also on many of the streaming platforms, including Spotify ( and BandCamp (