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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Jan 29, 2021

Pastor Beth gets to introduce Pastor Michael to a friend and colleague, Rev. Darci Jaret. Darci is an art minister, and has developed a Pastoral Care model that offers healing through creative narrative expression. The three pastors stumble onto how our interactions, the building of our relationships, make space for us to change and for our theology to expand. Come listen.


We apologize for occasional imperfections in this episode's sound quality, which may have been a result of unstable wifi during the recording of our video conference call.