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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Apr 28, 2017

The two pastors begin by reflecting on how increasing years of service at a church can lead to spiritual drain. They move into a more general conversation on our need for rest and renewal (sabbath) and our need to take longer periods of time off (sabbatical). How often should we take such a sabbatical, and what do we do while on sabbatical?


For this episode, the two pastors were recording in the same room. Possibly due to non-optimal microphone placement, there are a few segments of poorer sound quality. We apologize for these imperfections.