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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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Jul 21, 2017

The two pastors continue their conversation with the Rev. Dr. Erin Raffety. This time, they are discussing her research. As an anthropologist, she studied Chinese foster parents and the kinship developed in various family configurations.


This interview was recorded in the same session as Episode 75 (7/14/2017) and contains similar sound quality imperfections due to the use of a new recording configuration. We apologize in advance for any distractions this may cause.