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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Mar 11, 2016

What do you think of art that has Jesus as the subject? Listen to two pastors talk about the importance of imagination in understanding ourselves and God better.


Additional references:

1.  Norman Mailer - “The Gospel According to the Son”

2.  Christopher Moore - “Lamb: The Gospel According to Biff, Christ’s Childhood Pal”

3.  Elizabeth Cunningham - “The Passion of Mary Magdalen” (from “The Maeve Chronicles” series)

4.  Anne Rice - “Christ the Lord: Out of Egypt” (from “Life of Christ” series)

5.  Wm. Paul Young - “The Shack”