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Two Pastors' Podcast

Listen in on conversations between Pastors Beth Scibienski and Michael Droege, two old friends and colleagues who talk about life, love, politics, culture and everything in between. Currently in Season 6, we have now returned to publishing new episodes weekly on Fridays.

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We are grateful to This Side of Eve ( for permission to use the track "Catching Up the Light," from their latest album "More to Come" (available on iTunes, Spotify and Bandcamp), as our theme music. This Side of Eve consists of John and Alyssa Creasy and supporting musicians; John's work is with the Open Door Church ( and the Garfield Community Farm ( in Pittsburgh, PA. Listen to the two pastors' interview with John and Alyssa in Episode 245!

Apr 21, 2017

Due to a personal matter, we regret we are unable to bring you a new episode this week. We hope to be recording again soon. In the meantime, please enjoy this repost whose subject matter is no less important than it was a year ago when we first published the episode (Episode 13, 4/22/2016).

The two pastors talk about the resettling of refugees, how that leads to a fear of losing our lifestyle, and how the currency of sharing is not a zero-sum game.